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#1 Posted : Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:03:30 PM(EST)

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I was here for closed beta and now back for open, but will not be here anymore.
I realize this is a PkP game and you have to put up with it most of the time. But when PkP turns into nothing but plain old muggings the game is no longer fun and time to move on.

I am Lv 42 and was attempting to do some quests in Cloud City (Dragons Cliff) and while I was in battle with monsters in ran a person 10 levels higher than me and killed me while I was in battle. Well OK its PkP I understood, revived back at town and came back to find him and at least get in a few hits before I died again. But he had run off to his own side and hid giving me no chance. So I moved to another spot to continue and again as I was in battle he shows up and kills me again. This happened 4 times and even though I came back to have a PkP and even one time brought a couple of friends, the mugger coward that he was hid again and would only find me and kill me when I had no chance of even attacking.
Like I say I understand PkP is part of game but when (and this is only one example of gang up on the weak and score some points) the game can not be enjoyed because of a few cowards that make sure you don’t have a chance to defend yourself or make sure you are weaker than them, its time to move on to a game that can be enjoyed by all not just the strong and cowards. Especially when you have no choice if you want to try and level and have to use the PkP areas.
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#2 Posted : Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:34:38 PM(EST)

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That is normal. Always have player like that.

The wrost part is the p2w. Even rank free player cant stay there.

I play all the day every day just to stay in first of rank. But even that i cant.

I got easly killed by AK players and now realize that even my rank of LEVEL I cant sustain.
All for money.

Thats the world, where how have money can trample who has not.

Where the rich explore the poor.

I like to play to get out of this sad reality. But when all those stupid things come to the virtual world.
I think is good bye for me too.

The AK World.
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#3 Posted : Saturday, May 04, 2013 2:36:06 PM(EST)

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Haney wrote:
I was here for closed beta and now back for open, but will not be here anymore.
I realize this is a PkP game and you have to put up with it most of the time. But when PkP turns into nothing but plain old muggings the game is no longer fun and time to move on.

I am Lv 42 and was attempting to do some quests in Cloud City (Dragons Cliff) and while I was in battle with monsters in ran a person 10 levels higher than me and killed me while I was in battle. Well OK its PkP I understood, revived back at town and came back to find him and at least get in a few hits before I died again. But he had run off to his own side and hid giving me no chance. So I moved to another spot to continue and again as I was in battle he shows up and kills me again. This happened 4 times and even though I came back to have a PkP and even one time brought a couple of friends, the mugger coward that he was hid again and would only find me and kill me when I had no chance of even attacking.
Like I say I understand PkP is part of game but when (and this is only one example of gang up on the weak and score some points) the game can not be enjoyed because of a few cowards that make sure you don’t have a chance to defend yourself or make sure you are weaker than them, its time to move on to a game that can be enjoyed by all not just the strong and cowards. Especially when you have no choice if you want to try and level and have to use the PkP areas.




NoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo! Haney, you will be avenged! Boo will not have it! ( Lame Baldur's Gate reference )

Seriously though, don't quit! Yes, there's a bunch of BS in the game as it stands, but keep in mind it's still in a Beta phase. There's numerous gripes and complaints in the Suggestion threads that all boil down to what you're describing, and branches off on other topics of a similar nature.

So don't quit. The developers will fix and balance this game. They may not comment here, but I'm like, 60% sure they your voice will be heard with the others. Just going to take some time. That's why I'm sticking around.


On a side note...what were you thinking? Going after someone 10 levels higher than you? Even if you had a full party of people your level, if you went up against a 52 Warlord, that party's probably going to be toast if he/she's well geared at that level ( 4x with a few 5x equip ).

Again, it'll be balanced eventually.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, May 04, 2013 6:23:07 PM(EST)

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Stop complaining lazy a**es :) getting lvl 59 isnt as hard as you telling us.
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#5 Posted : Saturday, May 04, 2013 6:33:30 PM(EST)

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Copastetic wrote:
Haney wrote:
I was here for closed beta and now back for open, but will not be here anymore.
I realize this is a PkP game and you have to put up with it most of the time. But when PkP turns into nothing but plain old muggings the game is no longer fun and time to move on.

I am Lv 42 and was attempting to do some quests in Cloud City (Dragons Cliff) and while I was in battle with monsters in ran a person 10 levels higher than me and killed me while I was in battle. Well OK its PkP I understood, revived back at town and came back to find him and at least get in a few hits before I died again. But he had run off to his own side and hid giving me no chance. So I moved to another spot to continue and again as I was in battle he shows up and kills me again. This happened 4 times and even though I came back to have a PkP and even one time brought a couple of friends, the mugger coward that he was hid again and would only find me and kill me when I had no chance of even attacking.
Like I say I understand PkP is part of game but when (and this is only one example of gang up on the weak and score some points) the game can not be enjoyed because of a few cowards that make sure you don’t have a chance to defend yourself or make sure you are weaker than them, its time to move on to a game that can be enjoyed by all not just the strong and cowards. Especially when you have no choice if you want to try and level and have to use the PkP areas.




NoooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOoooo! Haney, you will be avenged! Boo will not have it! ( Lame Baldur's Gate reference )

Seriously though, don't quit! Yes, there's a bunch of BS in the game as it stands, but keep in mind it's still in a Beta phase. There's numerous gripes and complaints in the Suggestion threads that all boil down to what you're describing, and branches off on other topics of a similar nature.

So don't quit. The developers will fix and balance this game. They may not comment here, but I'm like, 60% sure they your voice will be heard with the others. Just going to take some time. That's why I'm sticking around.


On a side note...what were you thinking? Going after someone 10 levels higher than you? Even if you had a full party of people your level, if you went up against a 52 Warlord, that party's probably going to be toast if he/she's well geared at that level ( 4x with a few 5x equip ).

Again, it'll be balanced eventually.



I completely agree with Honey and I would hate to see you go. It's sad the amount of players I've seen leave and have to say goodbye to in the near future over this type of thing. There is a difference between PK and Harassment. Certain ppl don't seem to see that.

Three things I know tons of people who are trying to get the devs to listen to are:

1. Griefing rules.
2. For PK - Lock in the lvl for available targets. Only allow people to attack, or be attacked, by people FIVE lvls above or below your current lvl.
3. Nation lock.

From what I hear, people are getting generic responses with tickets and no word of what TAW is planning to do.
I think without these things put in place... it will be a definite fail. IMO.

PS.. just because it takes someone longer to get to 59 because they are CONSTANTLY being attacked and killed while questing, does not make them a lazy @ss. (might you be one of those cowards she speaks of?)
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#6 Posted : Monday, May 06, 2013 10:54:05 PM(EST)

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Same as the thread starter, I started playing this game right when open beta opened but can't spend too much time playing (rl meh) so just recently hit 41. I was in Dragon Cliffs minding my own buisness trying to do the quests and along comes 10 helios all 53+ to kill me....seriously how is that fun? What part is fun killing a lvl 41 with crap equips? So along with the thread starter, thanks for the game but this is bs. I am all for pk but not during questing, that just messes with lvling and is low in my opinion.

To the person that said we are lazy because we aren't 59 yet, yeah it was easy for you, you were probably one of the firsts so didn't have to deal with pk. As it stands now I don't think there will be many new people who will come play Aurora and stay, they will get 40-42 get pk'd over and over and quit, like my husband and I. It will be the same people high level, gee, that sounds so fun.....
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#7 Posted : Monday, May 06, 2013 11:11:45 PM(EST)

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Losing so many players to the type of PvP I'm trying to get fixed (5 levels above or below) really sucks, I was PKed over and over as well but am still playing and I know how bad it feels :/

Best of luck in the future games you play and I hope you will come back and try TAW when the game has progressed :)
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#8 Posted : Monday, May 06, 2013 11:40:22 PM(EST)

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I remember the day I invaded Helios alone, camped a little, PKed some and eventually helped Phoenixx to kill a Treasure boss. :P
Then someone came and killed me while I was speaking of Mages. :P

Not really fun to kill questers. PvP on questing map shouldn't happen.
Like the NoLife team woth their miraclous multiple +9 gear camping at DV entrance and blocking people who attempted to enter to drop their gear.
Lame feature.
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#9 Posted : Monday, May 06, 2013 11:42:37 PM(EST)

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I cannot do much to hold you back from quitting Haney. :/ I was in the same position as you as well. I never let those things get to me though because I know I will get them back when I reach their level. If you were getting PK’ed then you should have immediately switched channels to avoid conflict with the felonious instead of moving spots.

I usually log off when the game gets my angry. Never lose sight that it is just a game. People lose that prospect of reality then ends up sitting there from morning-to-night, seven days a week. Too much of it can actually damage your mentality believe it or not. Take a nap, watch a movie or take a walk too cool yourself down.

I cannot say much for the pay-to-win conversation. I am just the forum moderator, I have no involvement with the administrative duties.

What I can say is the developers are working quite hard with their job to improve this game. A lot more improvements will be made in time, guaranteed. Time is mandatory.



Bring it back to reality. For the improvement situation, think about this. How long does it take to create new content, make sure it works without bugs then start making patches and stuff when they already have enough to juggle on their plates? For those who never took game development, it takes a very long time to do everything when tickets are constantly being made.

As many said before, we are still in beta phase. The game has not been out for too long now. @_@

Le poof.
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:45:48 AM(EST)

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We all went through that, yea it sux but all it did is motivate me to get higher lvl and better equipment (it helps a lot trust me). and another thing that helped is don't go alone, have at least one other person and go questing together. Those cowards don't att you if you have just one other there. Don't let some coward chase you away from a game that has so much potencial. :)
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 4:19:07 AM(EST)

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i feel this game is verry much leaning towards. paying players. in terms of pvp. wise. the more u spend. irl money the more. ur just goona own and murder anyone u come across in pvping. thats just how i feel at this momment. even my guild ldr who has been playing nonstop. barely taking breaks. getting his gears. and he still cant. beat p2w players.. like.. its kinda rediculous at this point. i even watched one battle.

1 Sorc. literally.. one sorc.. pretty much. wrecked..5 of us by hiself.. while his hp. didnt even go. below.. 60%... i sht u not. now for a caster class. thats just pretty over the top. and honestly sum players need to open thier eyes. and see what is happening around them. even his manjin. was hitting us for heavy damage i mean like come on lol his majin pretty much soloed. one of our warlords. by itself and he is 57 x.x
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#12 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 6:00:13 AM(EST)

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im back to Rappelz too , at least there pvp is fun :D
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 7:38:25 AM(EST)

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I couldn't agree with you more, while I really do enjoy this game, I'm so tired of getting jumped over and over by higher lvl players while trying to do quests..I've advanced to Spiritual Peak and I went there long enough to check it get my butt kicked about 3x and I've not been back..I have to finish my achievement quests there but atm I'm avoiding them like crazy..Sure PVP is fun I enjoy it when the playing field is lvl. But getting jumped constantly by the players that are 10+ lvls higher then me is NO FUN at all...I thought I'd finally give Holy Trial a try, only to find that most of the other players in there were several lvl's higher also so I said the heck with that too...I don't see why it would be so difficult for TAW to change all this..It really does take the fun out of the game, and I thought that's why we played games...
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#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 8:29:11 AM(EST)

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Aphelia wrote:
I couldn't agree with you more, while I really do enjoy this game, I'm so tired of getting jumped over and over by higher lvl players while trying to do quests..I've advanced to Spiritual Peak and I went there long enough to check it get my butt kicked about 3x and I've not been back..I have to finish my achievement quests there but atm I'm avoiding them like crazy..Sure PVP is fun I enjoy it when the playing field is lvl. But getting jumped constantly by the players that are 10+ lvls higher then me is NO FUN at all...I thought I'd finally give Holy Trial a try, only to find that most of the other players in there were several lvl's higher also so I said the heck with that too...I don't see why it would be so difficult for TAW to change all this..It really does take the fun out of the game, and I thought that's why we played games...



Get strong....all i can say. I made an alt, running around trolling people up to lvl 50 and i was lvl 39...When they look at me as an easy kill and find out otherwise it changed my views AND theirs..lol.

Its not hard to be STRONG in this game. I got my full 4x set (weapon, gear) before i even hit 4x. So NOW i can level up and have my set right away and get back to trolling people as a bishop.

Quest as a team. This is an mmo and its almost MEANT for party play. Thats how that "NoLife" team got strong in the first place.

Complaining about teams coming and facerolling you..when you dont even go out to quest in a team is quite sad imo. especially quitting over it.
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 1:48:14 PM(EST)


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Hi players,

I see how a lot of low level players suffers from the increasing number of players reaching lv59. What are your suggestion to resolve this or to make it lighter for lower levels? Is making kill 5 levels below give no fame helps? or purely non-attackable?

What is Grieving rules?

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#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 2:42:23 PM(EST)

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im thinking something like within 5 lvls and also if you killed someone you cant atk him within an hour because ppl dont gank for fame and geste they do it because they can.

also give ppl some sort of way of obtaining even a small chance to upgrade their items above +6 without paying massive $ i personally pay a bit (alot to some) but im nowhere near some of the guys out there and still miles ahead of most, which is no fun for me or them since we cant have a descent battle.

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#17 Posted : Tuesday, May 07, 2013 11:02:11 PM(EST)

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All maps should be like Field of Seal.

You got there, do your quests, seal farm, KS other people's seal if you want to... Worst case scenario you'll end up looking for another seal/quest spot, no one gets hurt. I remember the good old days of stealing that double seal spot from players of another Nation.

Let the PvP be on Resource Wars and invading another Nation.
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#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:38:41 PM(EST)

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Lezard wrote:
All maps should be like Field of Seal.

You got there, do your quests, seal farm, KS other people's seal if you want to... Worst case scenario you'll end up looking for another seal/quest spot, no one gets hurt. I remember the good old days of stealing that double seal spot from players of another Nation.

Let the PvP be on Resource Wars and invading another Nation.


You dont say x.x , make pvp in events european players rarely join, better dont do that. And asking for strongly PvE oriented game is pointless, pretty sure you will get bored and complain again once you reach 59 anyway.

Making 59 lvl player to be able to attack only 54+ sounds good.

And something else i noticed in the players going to quit this game. They talking about quests, especially Achievemnt quest. They said they were 42 lvl or something like that so it is Dragon cliff ACHV quest. Well it is not that hard to kill 20 dragons and you will get it done in few minutes even with enemies there. But there is something... it is the escort on the little dragon, i remember i completed it on the 3rd day i have the quest, you need to cross all the map and enemies not letting you complete it. Well this is just example, Spiritual peak escorting quests while doing ACHV is not much different, even worse. My point here is it the escorting quests in pvp zones the core of the problem. Other quests if you try in lets say 20-30 minutes you wil complete and forget about them. But you can try escorting quest for hours and get no progress at all.
I would bet money escorting part in the ACHV quests is what really get mad the 2 players who said going to quit,probably not the only reason just the main reason.
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#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 08, 2013 1:49:30 PM(EST)

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naturalna wrote:
Lezard wrote:
All maps should be like Field of Seal.

You got there, do your quests, seal farm, KS other people's seal if you want to... Worst case scenario you'll end up looking for another seal/quest spot, no one gets hurt. I remember the good old days of stealing that double seal spot from players of another Nation.

Let the PvP be on Resource Wars and invading another Nation.


You dont say x.x , make pvp in events european players rarely join, better dont do that. And asking for strongly PvE oriented game is pointless, pretty sure you will get bored and complain again once you reach 59 anyway.

Making 59 lvl player to be able to attack only 54+ sounds good.

And something else i noticed in the players going to quit this game. They talking about quests, especially Achievemnt quest. They said they were 42 lvl or something like that so it is Dragon cliff ACHV quest. Well it is not that hard to kill 20 dragons and you will get it done in few minutes even with enemies there. But there is something... it is the escort on the little dragon, i remember i completed it on the 3rd day i have the quest, you need to cross all the map and enemies not letting you complete it. Well this is just example, Spiritual peak escorting quests while doing ACHV is not much different, even worse. My point here is it the escorting quests in pvp zones the core of the problem. Other quests if you try in lets say 20-30 minutes you wil complete and forget about them. But you can try escorting quest for hours and get no progress at all.
I would bet money escorting part in the ACHV quests is what really get mad the 2 players who said going to quit,probably not the only reason just the main reason.


The game has seemed to balance out at cap...ak users with a small advantage of gettign things faster is the only problems tat are around.

You are protected by players 10+ your current lvl. There is a Taunt debuff that you get and they Can attack you. Go qhuest when that taunt debuff is not on, meaning if you dont wanna get pk, Dont attack players.


Lezard , this is a open pvp game...why would all maps be like FoS. It is liek the training grounds for the 40+ world. Learn to seal, what quests will be like, and help you out with a small ammount of gear. After that you gtta toughen up and fight for your stuff instead of Steal it
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#20 Posted : Thursday, May 09, 2013 6:35:20 AM(EST)

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Ive got the perfect fix for this

Just add an NPC on eachmap with achievements

He can give you protection for say 20-30 mins meanig no enemy nation
has the ability to attack you

You then have 20-30 mins to do some of your achievement, this will only last
until achievement is done and can only be obtained once per day and a max of 4 times


This will help those people that don't have the best protection to atleast complete
most of their achievements
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